later this week is the vice presidential debate. now the obama camp is dismissing the romney speech saying it's a third or fourth time to explain his global intentions. on a fundraising note the president raised $181 million last month. >> there are two presidential debates left in campaign 2012. but on thursday the vice presidential candidates go head-to-head. usually there's little attention paid to the debate between vp candidates who rarely play a role who wins the election but as bill plante reports, this year is different. >> reporter: it's biden versus ryan. age versus youth. a great society liberal. >> we're going to ask the wealthy to pay more. >> reporter: versus the tea party conservative. >> at a time when we have a jobs crisis in america wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? >> reporter: biden became a u.s. senator when ryan turned 3. and ran for president twice. he's been on many debate stages before. >> nothing like standing up before 70 million people. >> reporter: biden is a nonstop talker, p